Me: perhaps you should examine why ur so repulsed by trans bodies instead of pretending like there’s no way it’s a symptom of u being raised in a transphobic society
A Cis™ *already in tears*: i can;;;t believe u want to force mea to have sex with all tthe transes 😦 thinkin u are gross is just who i am 😦 😦 why cannn;t u JUST accept that i seeu u as less desirable based solely on my invasssive assumptions aboout ur geniatals :- ( 😦
You could also stop trying to use other people’s bodies to validate your gender and accept that the physical body is real important to people and stop acting like incels but you do you boo
Time for a game I call “Transmed or TERF”.
Oh oh I love this game! Calling trans people terfs is so much fun! Hmmm…. I’m going to go with bloke with common sense here
Ah, sadly, your argument was the subject of the game, since it’s identical to that of TERFs.
I’ll give terf’s one thing, there are a lot of real fucking awful trans people out there trying to trick or guilt gay people into fucking them because woke points (aka validate my gender with your body even though you specifically don’t want to)
I’d offer a retort about how TERFs certainly claim that but really you’d be better off re-reading the OP.
I just read the tags:
Sexist? TERFs use women as a scapegoat/shield from criticism often enough without other people helping them.
Mad cuz you’re an incel, aren’t ya, babe? Anyway no one has any right to people’s bodies or their beds. If “don’t guilt people into fucking you” and “no means no” sounds like terf speak to you then you belong on the registry 👍
Nobody has any right to people’s bodies.
Don’t guilt people into fucking you.
No means no.
These aren’t “TERF speak”. They were never in doubt or question. They are not something being argued against. “TERF speak” is pretending that they were, ignoring actual arguments and actual problems in favour of straw arguments and ad hominem (though in this case those are euphemisms).
It’s a malicious, cowardly lie that exploits a serious problem (rape culture) to derail discussion and distract from what’s actually being criticised.
The idea that “no means no” is “TERFy” only benefits TERFs and their masquerade as mere protectors of common virtue.
Your joke “mad cuz you’re an incel, aren’t ya, babe?” in stark contrast to slander of being a sex offender (not something to joke about). And, while I know incels are an easy target for criticism (and they do deserve it), do I have to point out how it echoes the proud misogynist tradition of telling feminists “you’re just mad because you can’t get sex”?
Thank you for standing up for us, and exposing cis women’s accusations for the lies they are! Oh, they certainly claim that sometimes identityfluid AMABs such as myself commit violent crimes, and resort to malicious, cowardly tactics like citing “evidence” or directly quoting us, and that’s just not cricket, but you know what those cis women are like, getting all hysterical and making things up.
They don’t even stop to think about whether it makes us look bad when one (or several) of us is caught being “violent” or “coercive”. If they were real allies, they’d pipe down and stop making such a fuss. Otherwise folx might think there was something to this “male violence” thing, and that’s the real sexism.
HAHAHA OMG thank you so much for thisx aww hahaha yesss. I get so tired of rehashing the same arguments day after day, thank you for your on point message
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I get the point you’re making, and it’s a really valid message. But speaking as a straight white boy (well, I’m 35 now, but I spent much of my life as a boy), this is a bit exclusionary. There’s no need to insult us by comparing us to cis l*sb**ns. I’ve actually had very similar arguments trying to convince more women to be open to dating me!
I think I’m quite creative in the bedroom – sex doesn’t just have to be P-in-V, after all! Why, the last time I had sex (which was far too long ago, I’m sorry to say) I lit some candles and watched them burn while my partner gave me a hand-shandy. She left halfway through (rude!) when she noticed I was paying more attention to those flickering, beguiling flames than to her. She was wittering on about me “not considering [her] needs and desires” etc., you know, the usual whiny stuff. Pre-menstrual tension, I expect.
But I finished myself off, did a line and settled down with the London Evening Standard and a G&T. All in all, it was a very nice evening, I thought.
Excluding someone from your dating pool just because he/she/they has a history of murdering people is essentialist and prejudiced, because it’s usually based on the assumption that he/she/xie is going to murder YOU next. As if that’s the MOST important thing in the relationship and it just HAS to revolve around his/her/zar murder history.
Challenge your assumptions, folx! It’s really not that important. Personally, I only commit contract killings, so I’d never bring my work home with me (unless a client put a hit on my date of course, but that’s never happened in my whole career).
Why not try dating a murder worker? You might be surprised to find it’s not the dealbreaker you thought it was! Remember, we’re attracted to hearts, not parts! ❤ (Taking parts isn’t my usual MO, but on the rare occasion I do a dismemberment, I always dispose of any parts cleanly and responsibly, so you won’t even see the parts!)
You know, if SKERFs would give me a chance and date me, I think they’d find my fluid identity is a plus. I’m a sexy man of mystery! ^_-
Besides, they’re always saying they love a man in uniform, and I’m always beating random uniformed staff into unconsciousness, borrowing their clothes and documents and identifying as them.
And if you say “that doesn’t count, no matter what clothes you wear and what name you use, I don’t see you as John Smith, security guard, I still see you as Gaspar Milligan, stranglewank hitman, and I don’t want to date a murderer”, then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
That is invalidating my identity. It is essentialist, it is problematic and it is exclusionary. And it’s insulting my disguise skills – I had everyone else in the building convinced long enough for me to murder their boss and escape, so why can’t YOU see me as my preferred identity? PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON HITMEN END UP AT THE BOTTOM OF THE THAMES, FEET ENCASED IN CONCRETE. It’s all your fault and you should feel bad. Feminism will include men, regardless of murder history, or it will be bullshit.
Anyway if any REAL feminists (ie not SKERFy bitch cunt whore (I’m allowed to say that word because I’m a sex worker) scum) out there want to date me, just use the Ask box or leave a coded message in the Evening Standard letters page
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Okay so I got a lot of complaints from SKERFs about my post “your dating preferences are discriminatory”. Well, really just one complaint – “if women don’t want to date a serial killer that’s their choice and you should respect that, blah blah blah mner ner ner (bitchy whiny PMS-ing SKERF voice)” – and I’d like to address it.
The point is, it’s erasing and invalidating my identity. I don’t identify as a hitman, when I’m on a job I identify myself as a security guard, a janitor, an admin assistant or whatever else I’m disguised as at the time. You don’t TELL the target you’re there to murder them, this is really basic (and I shouldn’t have to educate you about it!).
When fake feminists say they don’t want to date a serial killer, they’re saying they see me as a serial killer and not as whatever I say I am. And that’s terrible and they should feel bad!
This whole thing with Ruth has given me some perspective on how discriminatory and bigoted a lot of assigned-female-at-births can be about their dating preferences.
Did you know on Internet dating sites, AFABs’ number one fear is that their date will turn out to be a serial killer? As if that’s a bad thing!
Where on earth did this idea that women can “set boundaries” and “have preferences” come from? It makes me feel sad and excluded, and that is oppression!
If there are any women in the London area who are real feminists and understand that real feminism must be inclusive of everyone, including homicidal men, please do say hello ^_-
Stranglewank Hitman 